Hill Climb Rankings

We have made some changes for the processing of hill climbs to best present the data we have in light of the differences between hill climbs and time trials. The main premise of Spindata is unchanged – points scored reflect a sort of notional ranking in the event of everyone active riding, so low is better, and it takes into account both position and time gaps.

However, there are far fewer active riders and events and they take place in a much smaller time window.

  • Ninety percent of all races take place in September and October.
  • There are about 100 hill climbs a year, whereas there are about 850 TTs a year.
  • There are never more than 2000 riders active (i.e. having done at least one event in the last 12 months) compared with over 9000 active TT riders.

Because of this the following adaptations have been made.

  1. The qualifying number of rides is just 3.
  2. Frequent status starts at 6 rides.
  3. Only rides in this calendar year apply for the rankings.

This has the following effects on the rankings.

  1. Early season very few people are qualified so the ranking list is tiny. This is simply because to feature on the rankings you have to have 3 rides in this calendar year. We needed to make this change as otherwise it would be possible to top the rankings for most of 2019 without riding at all this year, simply on the strength of being the best rider in 2018, which seems inappropriate.
  2. The rankings and the category no longer always correlate. This is because it seems to make sense to preserve the category based on the 12-month performance. If that rider from last year was to ride this year, he would be known to be a highly performing rider and worthy of a high category even though it was his first race this season.

So, what we have now is a category status which is akin to a background ranking but a ranking table which more closely resembles a season long points competition.

As more events take place, more and more riders will pass the 3 ride threshold and the rankings table will fill out. Currently you can see the riders who have not qualified yet, in order of their pre qualifying scores by clicking the display provisional riders box. This now stands at about 200 riders which is the total number of people who have ridden at least 1 scored hill climb in 2019.

As there are far fewer active riders the points overall are much lower. The range for a TT is between 1 and about 9000 but the worst points score for a HC will be more like 2000 (just because that is how many active riders there are) so a score of about 1000 in a hill climb  is mid field and would equate to a category of around C10 whereas on the TT ranking 1000 would give you a much higher category.

Riders who may be very good at TTs may not be so strong at hill climbs and vice versa. If you ride both your results for each will be completely separate and you will have a category and ranking for each.

I`m especially short on data for making predictions so many events won’t have time predictions although the graphs of rank versus time still generally correlate well so I hope the time predictions I can make will have some validity. I`m trialling a slightly different algorithm, which I will review end of season, so please bear with me on this. The predicted positions should be as accurate as I can get them depending on how good the ranking is.

There are some events where there appears, for whatever reason, to be very little correlation between rank and time and these events have not been scored. In this case they cannot count towards the ranking, sorry.

I haven’t found any hill climb events where the distance is stated on the CTT event page. Thanks to Richard Gildea for researching event data for this year’s hill climbs which has saved me a huge amount of time trying to track down the courses online.

There may be some teething problems as we had all of 2018 to prepare for the Spindata TT system but have had a tight deadline for the hill climbs. Let us know if you spot anything funny or have any suggestions

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